[Character notes: In his rebuttal/refutation/response it seems Watts would like to play at being Henry V, roused to rightous and Royal fury by a mock from some unworthy, but merciful in his Royal Majesty. What we actually get is decidedly more reminiscent of the rogue, coward and liar Bardolph.]
But enough, now your humble patience pray, Gently to hear, kindly to judge, our play…
BPSDBOK, climate change denial has always been about politics, not science, but the climate change Deniers are expanding the scope of their lying and frauds.
Now they are forging letters allegedly from groups representing marginalized populations in an attempt to prevent any meaningful action on climate change. The letters to members of the U.S. Congress actually came from a Washington lobby firm.
“They stole our name. They stole our logo. They created a position title and made up the name of someone to fill it. They forged a letter and sent it to our congressman without our authorization,” said Tim Freilich, who sits on the executive committee of Creciendo Juntos, a nonprofit network that tackles issues related to Charlottesville’s Hispanic community. “It’s this type of activity that undermines Americans’ faith in democracy.”
The video was reposted and an informal campaign to spread the word took off. The grassroots campaign to keep Peter Sinclair’s video public has had considerable success. As you can see, the search I just did yielded 29,000 hit. Of course not all of them are related to this story, but from what I could tell a great many of them were.
Actually I don’t know Jim at all. He’s just some Dude who showed up here as a commenter last Dec 10th. A Virgo apparently, likes birding and sailing … may like Pina Coldas for all I know. But when I saw the work he was doing my reaction was “You’re insane! A wonderful, magical, beautiful type of insane.“
The Watts Up With That readers are an “emotional” little gang of online trolls … the massive flame war that the video has provoked.
Trivial aside, I got a link to a repost that had obviously been babble fished such that the above read:
The Watts Up With That readers are an “emotional” lowercase association of online trolls that pay artefact likewise such instance on their safekeeping …. to wager the large burning struggle that the recording has provoked.
“Flame war” as “the large burning struggle”, I liked that.
BPSDBLately we have been experiencing another rash of news from the “Dept of the Obvious Dept”, coupled with the other climate change Denier tactic of offering “New Improved Lipstick on a Dead Pig” (act now, operators are waiting!).
“New! Improved!” Lipstick on a Dead Pig
Dept of the Obvious Dept
Collected Resource Links
An actual “New Study”
The “Dept of the Obvious Dept” (hereafter DoOD) tactic is just another variation of the Red Herring Fallacy. In this case the tactic is to take some aspect of climate science that is fully accounted for in the science, well known to those even passingly familiar with the basics, and pretend that it is i) news, and ii) not accounted for in the science. (more…)
But it’s been cold and wet here, how is that possible?
There are several layers to that question; the explicit question of how it is possible, and the implicit assumption that it should not be happening. There is a third part that almost never comes up, the question of whether it actually has been cool and wet.
Like Coby and ScruffyDan (and probably every climate blogger at one point or another) I find that I have to rethink comments policy on this blog. Not surprisingly the issue is the same as elsewhere, the proverbial “shouting match” over the reality of anthropogenic climate change.
The “problem” is perfectly evident on these threads and at every climate rationalist’s site; overwhelmingly some climate change Denier posts uniformed &/or obviously nonsensical repetitions of the same old debunked Denier nonsense. In many cases quite obviously without even having read the post to which they are appended.
Some other commenter replies, with or without facts refuting the nonsense, and off it goes.
While not universally true, typically it is the Denier who does not engage rationally, logically or honestly, responding to refutations by ignoring them and advancing yet another false argument instead. (more…)
This thread is for most comments that are not relevant to a particular post on this site;
IF your comment is an attempt to challenge the core science of anthropogenic climate change then it belongs on the “Challenging the Core Science” Comment Thread, NOT HERE. Violators will simply be deleted.
Comments will be also be deleted without mercy &/or have one of the following texts appended, or substituted for it IF:
It attacks individuals;
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It duplicates other comments you have made in this thread or elsewhere on this site;
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ALL posters, please do not engage or reply to policy violators. I will be deleting their comments as soon as possible which will leave your comment contextless.
This 4 1/2 minute movie can seem a bit dry and pedantic at first, but trust me, you’re being set up. Watch it right through to the end. The send up of our Western lifestyle and moral callousness is done superbly.
BPSDBSix more of the climate change Denier fables have been nicely debunked in Peter Sinclair’s excellent Climate Crock of the Week series. I cannot recommend these enough for popping into comment threads and forums where the various fables appear.
Of particular value are “Party like it’s 1998” debunking the ‘clmate change ended in … ‘ stupidity, “This Year’s Model” debunking the various variants of the ‘models are all wrong’, and the two dealing with CO2 and the CO2 lag memes.
The climate change Denialosphere is all a twitter over their latest fraud.
It seems Carlin co-authored an internal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) climate change / global warming report with John Davidson that was suppressed and censored until the courageous Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) blew the whistle on the EPA.
it’s Alan Carlin, not George,
it’s not an EPA report,
it was never suppressed,
there was no cover up,
CEI is just another PR firm pretending to be a think tank,
and all Carlin (the principle author) does in his personal (NOT agency) rant is regurgitate the standard Denier nonsense known to be scientific gibberish, (but he’s still funny).