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BPSDB Kevin Grandia recently profiled Peter Sinclair’s Climate Crock video “Watts up with Watts?” that I shared in Mixed Media; Kevin gave you a choice of Debunking Another Climate Change Crock: What’s Up with Anthony Watts? or [flame war edition].
The Watts Up With That readers are an “emotional” little gang of online trolls … the massive flame war that the video has provoked.
Trivial aside, I got a link to a repost that had obviously been babble fished such that the above read:
The Watts Up With That readers are an “emotional” lowercase association of online trolls that pay artefact likewise such instance on their safekeeping …. to wager the large burning struggle that the recording has provoked.
“Flame war” as “the large burning struggle”, I liked that.
The latest development: Global warming denier uses the DMCA to silence a critic
Well, the video must have been really on target — it stung Anthony Watts so badly that he initiated a DMCA “takedown” action and got the “Watts Up With Watts” video removed from youtube.com!
Apropos of this commenter Hank Roberts offers:
“Best summary on DMCA, takedown, copyright, and how to respond to a takedown. Clip and save for reference. Make sure to follow the links provided: Daily Kos :: Comments Global warming denier uses the DMCA to silence a critic“
Climate Change in Their Own Village
Depending on your audience I think many people will find this simple first hand account by high school kids much more compelling than all of the reports and studies combined:
Thanks to Twilight Earth and the post Alaskan High School Kids Document Climate Change in Their Own Village (Video) for the find.
Goldilocks and the Greenhouse:
A good little video on anthropogenic climate change. Pretty standard up to the 3 minute point, but then we get a nice little discussion of the Venus and Mars comparison and just how precarious our climate regime is.
Goldilocks and the Greenhouse: Science and Climate Change | LiveScience.com also at Space.com. Unfortunately there is no way to embed it that I was able to find. Not perfect, but useful.
Scientists underestimate insanity of climate change “Skeptics”
This from an Onionesque spoof site:
The latest output from the “Institute of a Stable climate” that suggests “invisible plasma comets” are responsible for Australia’s record high temperatures and drought, has sealed the reputation for climate change deniers as…differently-abled in the sanity sphere.
A spokesloon for the Institute, under conditions of strong sedation, ranted “I have ice cubes in my refrigerator, this proves that global warming is a myth, where’s your precious greenie, leftie, god now Al Gore, huh?, huh?, It’s all a conspiracy by money hungry hippies and greedy anarchists” Proceeding paused here as more sedation was administered, and the spokesloon removed some foam from his mouth.
and then this one
“an introductory four week course in the art of climate change denial featuring a new prayer topic every week, presented for the objective fundamentalist in an unbiased, socially conservative dominionist setting. Upon completing CCD 101, students should be able to defend the fossil fuel industry, willfully ignore and wildly mis-interpret data, and reconstruct their own apologetic to the secular consensus held by climate researchers.”
Clearly meant to be humour, but frankly hard to distinguish from comments on climate blogs and news sites. I suspect they are slamming up against Poe’s Law
“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won’t mistake for the real thing.
Poe’s Law makes the clear point that it is hard to tell parodies of fundamentalism from the real thing, since they both seem equally insane. Poe’s Law – RationalWiki
Seriously. Compare those parodies to this allegedly serious post:
The author pretends to critique a scientific paper, but:
- has quite clearly never read it (like that’s new);
- quotes sections of a media piece, but doesn’t actually say anything specific about it;
- offers no facts or evidence of any kind;
- just makes repeated rejections (denials?) based on absolutely nothing.
Well, it’s the internet … you get all kinds of loonies posting the most idiotic things. Fair enough, except I have seen this drivel actually posted to news sharing sites as a “refutation” of the paper, and the Dumbosphere “votes it up” as a legitimate story!
So who is parodying whom?
No doubt most folks caught some version of this news story Government releases spy satellite images of Arctic ice – Science Fair – USATODAY.com which led to:
- Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming Bush tried to hide | Environment | The Observer
- Think Progress » Obama administration reveals evidence of global warming kept secret under Bush.
In “The Denial Machine,” Climate Science Watch director Rick Piltz reviews eight years of the climate change disinformation campaign in the Bush administration for a special end-of-2008 issue of Index on Censorship devoted to examining the Bush legacy on human rights, secrecy, and censorship
McLean, de Freitas and Carter
“The denial group is behaving in a very revealing way.
The denialists are now trumpeting a very silly argument that El Nino (a quasiperiodic oscillation with energy in the 2-10 year band) is dominating secular trends in global temperature by an argument that I summarized in seven steps recently.
I would like to start the day with a shorter summary:
- 1) El Nino dominates interannual variability.
- 2) Frantic armwaving, accompanied by sciencey-looking charts and graphs.
- 3) Therefore, warming is predominantly due to El Nino.
- 4) Therefore, very not the IPCC.”
Pretty good summary of the paper actually. Much more accurate than the abstract.
Meanwhile, at The Blackboard
“As you can see, the best estimate for the change in temperature at d_SOI=0 is positive (m=3.4 C/century). This means the best estimate for the trend based on this analysis says that the SOI does not explain away the warming trend. This is true even if, as MdF&C argue, part of some recent uptick in temperatures is due to an trend in the SOI over the same period.
In any case, my current assessment of the paper is this: The authors have not shown that warming over the past 30 to 50 years can be explained as a result natural variations in the SOI. Certainly, they haven’t shown this for warming during the satelitte record. “
That SOI paper: Climate change worse than we thought?
Tamino, to his credit, did high light an important flaw. Oddly, I thought he didn’t take it far enough. In reality, if we go through the correlation, and stick in numbers for the value of the rate of change in SOI, the numbers support the argument “Climate change: Worse than we thought” (Comment#16700)
Missed an important one
“…this suppresses long term variation, and enhances short term variation. They assert that this removes noise, while, in fact, it amplifies noise (high frequency/short period components of the record). Alternately, they are defining ‘noise’ to be the long period part of the records — the climate portion of the record.”
Added to: Is our whole dissembly appeared?
Meanwhile, S2 draws our attention to:
I imagine that he now wishes that he hadn’t.
Tamino’s response concludes with
Let’s “duke it out” in the peer-reviewed literature, shall we? Expect a comment on your paper to appear soon in JGR. I can hardly wait to see how you’ll respond there.
No surprises here:
“Senator James Inhofe (R-Exxon) has misused the power of his chairmanship and, now, Ranking Minority status on the Senate Environment and Public Works (EPW) committee to expend taxpayer resources on distorting, misleading, and outright deceiving when it comes to scientific issues, most notably in relation to questions of Global Warming.”
and more folly:
Added to: NOT Sparta – Inhofe and the 400
Joseph Romm pretty much summarizes it:
There are lies, damn lies, Breakthrough Institute statistics, and then — at the very bottom, where you find the crap that is really hard to scrape off – George Will columns.
It’s reached the point where I find I can’t care what George Will actually said anymore. If Will said it, it’s pretty much a given that it’s not only false, but moronically so. More on Will:
- Memo to Post: If George Will quotes a lie, it’s still a lie « Climate Progress
- Climate denialists George Will, Mark Steyn and school children « The Way Things Break
- Latest George Will atrocity : Deltoid
- Sarah Palin, George Will, and Potemkin debates | Grist
- George Will and WattsUpWithThat embrace a proud former shill for a man convicted on fraud and conspiracy charges « Climate Progress
- Fred Hiatt and George Will think Washington Post readers are morons « The Way Things Break
From April and before
- One Blue Marble Blog » Blog Archive » Double Dumb Ass Award: George Will
- George Will misrepresents WMO data again : Deltoid
- Matthew Yglesias » Eugene Robinson: George Will “Crossed the Line”
- Wonk Room » The WonkLine: July 14, 2009
- Things Break takes down George Will’s latest : A Few Things Ill Considered
- Matthew Yglesias » Tom Toles Hits George Will
- Wonk Room » George Will’s Latest Denier Column Links To Global Boiling Document
- Think Progress » In article on new climate change data, Washington Post takes a shot at its own columnist.
- In search of George Will’s climate-denial sources : The Island of Doubt
Added to: George F. Will goes platinum
Carlin and the bogus EPA censorship story:
“[Update, July 8: In another astonishing twist, I have just discovered that Marlo Lewis, the National Review columnist whose piece Carlin lifted as discussed below, is - wait for it - a Senior Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which just happens to be the right-wing think tank that has been touting the so-called "suppression" of Alan Carlin's report. I'll have more on this soon.]“
Probably the most complete account of the whole debacle. “Denialist attack on EPA handling of Carlin global warming contrarian document:
Of course like all Urban Legends, jsut because it’s been shown beyond all doubt to be idiotic nonsense doesn’t actually stop the mainstream media from reporting it as fact:
Added to: Carlin Lives! Funnier than ever
Over the last 50 years, the West Antarctic Peninsula (WAP) warmed at a rate 4.8 times the global average. Earth Gauge
We give our consent every moment that we do not resist.
Denier “Challenge” aka Deathwatch Update: Day 272 … still no evidence.
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