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Denier 'facts' alive and well ... sort of

Denier 'facts' alive and well ...

Once again the climate change / global warming Deniers are trying to revive the dead; this time the ridiculous “Scientists predicted Global Cooling in the 1970’s” myth.

This myth has been thoroughly debunked as having been nothing more than media sensationalism over the beliefs of a handful of scientists based on a limited number of studies.

Now some enterprising Denier found this gem “SCIENTISTS AGREE WORLD IS COLDER; But Climate Experts Meeting Here Fail to Agree on Reasons for Change” in the New York Times archive. Needless to say this is rocketing around the Denialopshere as “Proof of Scientific Consensus on Global Cooling: 1961” and “Global Cooling Consensus in the Past: the Evidence.”

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OK, not really citation indexes so much as weekly round ups of the internet with respect to climate change. I thought it  would be interesting to compare and contrast the Climate Rationalist news roundup with the Climate Change /Global Warming Denier1 equivalent, just to see what we’ve got.

Curiously, both are from Canada as am I. Not sure what that means, but I thought  I’d note it.

H.E. Taylor’s excellent “Another Week of Climate Disruption News” pretty much speaks for itself; organized, sometimes annotated, and comprehensive. How this worthy gentleman finds the time I have no idea, but it is an invaluable tool, if somewhat intimidating.

This resource is also archived, and Taylor also hosts another excellent resource “Global Warming Links.” Coby Beck over at “A Few Things Illconsidered” always links the news updates.

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A tip  of the hat to AccuWeather for recommending “Climate Change Deniers: “But They Are Scientists!” in thier post Alarmist and Denier Scientists.

A possible wag of the finger …

Since they also recommended Lindzin’s Climate of Fear I attempted to comment suggesting that these three commentaries were pertinent:

* “Ambiguous scientific statements about climate are hyped by those with a vested interest in alarm” Jim Hoggan, DeSmogBlog,12 Oct 06
* Lindzen: Point by point Daniel Kirk-Davidoff, RealClimate, 13 April 2006
* Open Thread on Lindzen Op-Ed in WSJ Group, RealClimate, 12 April 2006

The comment never appeared although the posting seemed to go fine and comments by other users did subsequently appear. I tried again, adding this debunking of David Evans in response to a comment by Patrick Henry and I would have liked to respond to Pericles comment by drawing everyone’s attention to:

* Politicizing Climate Science Werner Aeschbach-Hertig, Reality Check, 04 October 2008
* Lindzen Diatribe Michael Tobis, Only In It For The Gold, September 23, 2008

but this comment also never appeared. I then sent an email saying I had been trying to comment and enquiring if the comments had been registered, and if so why they had not appeared. I have not heard back although that was 2 days ago.

If the problem is some sort of technical glitch then all I can say is ‘been there, done that, shit happens’.

If, however, pertinent polite commentary is being withheld without good reason then I am afraid …

bad accuweather

bad accuweather

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As an addendum to Deniers Prove Staircases are Level! I thought I’t throw out a little bit of history. OK, not history, more current events actually:

One of the things that is totally baffling is that the Deniers even bother with the “Climate Change Ended in 1998!” meme; you would imagine it would be an impossible sell.

SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT: More than 52,000 Europeans Died from Heat in Summer 2003

2007 Southern Europe swelters in second heat wave

2007 Southern Europe swelters in second heat wave

and let’s not forget 2006 “Heat wave, drought hit US farmers hard

USA in 2006

USA in 2006

Yet apparently some people actually buy into it; how soon we forget.

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Added To: Dee Norris in her comment responded to a call for actual science with “How about we start with something recent: David H. Douglass and John R. Christy 2008”

RealClimate discusses that paper: Tropical tropospheric trends again (again)
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Added to: Climate Change Denial: Nothing but Lies and Frauds

Why Climate Denialists are Blind to Facts and Reason: The Role of Ideology

Denialists, however, have no interest in facts except as weapons in an ideological struggle. They don’t even care if “facts” are correct or not since their intention is not to establish that something is true or false, but rather to win a battle in an ideological war. If they can stump you or confuse you with a lie, well that works just as well for their purposes as does the truth.

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Added to: It’s Twins!: Evolution and Climate Change Deniers

Intelligent design/creationism and climate change

Scientific dissent from . . . science?

Who are the “dissenters from Darwinism”?

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Added To: “Denier Conspiracy Theories: More Paranoid Than Thou

Climate change deniers, Flat-Earthers, and conspiracy theorists

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Added to: “Why Won’t Al Gore Debate Climate Change?

Waah, they won’t debate us II

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You may think that Climate Change / Global Warming Denier[1] Conspiracy Theories are the same “boring” as all the other whacko conspiracy theories, but I suggest that you would be wrong. They have their own special character that is particularly revealing about Denier culture.

You have probably heard at least one or more of the Denier conspiracy theories, but Frank Bi over at IJI has very kindly created a web chart of the known conspiracy theories. There’s rather a lot of them actually, but I would like to start with Richard Lindzen‘s contributions to Denier Conspiricism for several reasons:

Modern Denier Conspiricism can be said to begin with Lindzen’s 1992 “Global Warming: The Origin and Nature of the Alleged Scientific Consensus“, and he has just recently contributed “The Mother of All Climate Conspiracies” so his work covers the epoch very nicely. Further, his theory is the one most parroted by Deniers so it is the most relevant. Finally, AccuWeather has just suggested Lindzen’s “Climate of Fear” and my post “But They Are Scientists” as paired reading, so it seems appropriate.

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Climate Change / Global Warming Deniers prove staircases are flat, they don’t go up anymore … and they have been like that since 1998!

OK, as usual the Deniers have proved nothing more than their own gullibility, and in some cases their duplicity and/or gross incompetence. This would not be very interesting if it was nothing more than just another Denier fraud debunked, but I think it gives us some more insight into the whole Denier movement.

In particular I think it is a pretty clear demonstration that Denierism is not legitimate and honest skepticism, but rather the deliberate perpetuation of lies and frauds.  Further, that at least some of those with actual academic credentials (ie “scientists”) reveal themselves as either grossly incompetent or willfully fraudulent. That’s bit more interesting.

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