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The collected videos of Peter Sinclair’s excellent series are archived at “Climate Denial Crock of the Week” . You can also subscribe to Peter’s Youtube Channel at YouTube – greenman3610 and get them hot off the editor.
Kudos to Sinclair … his videos are obviously doing such a good job that the climate change Deniers apparently felt obliged to respond with “Hiding the “Hide the Decline,” featuring Greenman3610”
The Denier version
It opens with “Let’s start with the facts about global warming” – Denierspeak for “brace yourself for a load of drivel“, and they deliver:
- As ever, ignores the fact that a climatic trend requires a 30 data set, anything less is just weather;
- Cites Lindzen’s discredited work;
- Talks about the Medieval Warm Period, and commits 3 logical errors:
- 1) Suggesting a regional trend was global;
- 2) Assuming that if the MWP was natural, the current warming must be too (right, showing that one person died of natural causes “proves” that everyone else did too … like duh);
- 3) Implying that the WMP is not well known in science, and discussed in the IPCC reports, which of course it is and was;
- 4) Misrepresents statements by scientists which in context mean that there was “no global Medieval Warm Period” as being simply there was “no Medieval Warm Period”;
- Skips right past the fact that the global data shows that the WMP was NOT as warm as the present even for the Northern Hemisphere, let alone globally;
- Commits the Argument from ignorance fallacy by claiming that since the historical data is not as precise as current data it must therefore be completely useless;
- Tries to pass off the divergence of one of the proxy data sets (tree rings cf “hide the decline“) as being all of the proxy data sets (ie corals, ice cores, historical records, etc) , which is an outright lie;
- Tries to imply that the proxies (ie all) never reflect the instrumental record (they all do up to the 1960s, and only the tree ring data diverges thereafter), which is a lie;
- Tries to equate little statistical significance “between the years” with “no warming trend”, another lie. The reason you need a 30 year data set is precisely because there is little statistical significance between the years;
- Lies about CRU not sharing data with other scientists, which is not true. It was always available to other scientists, and 95% of it was made available to diletents who like to spend their time attacking scientists;
- Lies about alleged data destruction.
In other words, it’s a load of drivel, but then what Denier Fable isn’t?
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It would be an excellent video if its maker’s voice wasn’t muffled throughout.
and yet another post on those darn emails
just exactly how big is this teacup? [1]
imho it all boils down to one question
“why hide?” [2]
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I love this. “Leading Republican intellectuals…” while a picture of Sarah Palin is being shown.
Maybe because Palin is a leading intellectual when compared to other Republicans? (least so it appears to this canuck living north of our border). 🙂
I don’t know how you sit through videos like that. Willful ignorance, sloppy and crooked thinking like that raises my blood pressure.
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Peter, you are making a mistake by not allowing other blogs to embed your videos. I saw at Greenfyre it had been removed.
This is misguided in my opinion. Just tonight on NPR I heard a story about a chess store in Manhattan. They had a nice clientelle, and then, one of their best customers opened a store across the street. Fury ensued until the original store realized they were getting new customers who had arrived via advertising for the new store.
There is some sort of marketing term for this phenomena but I can’t remember it. Anyway, the point is, if I have your video embedded on my blog, and people see it and like it, YOU are more likely to get traffic from them than if I just post a link to your video, and they never bother to click on it.
Besides, aren’t we all in this together for the same reason? What is best for saving our planet for our children? Proprietory youtubes? Or free information?
Thank you for your brilliant work. I hope you will let all us peripheral acolytes post your crocks!
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I ADORE Peter, that’s why I want to embed him!!
Oooh Errr. Sounds a bit saucy! (70s Brit comedy, yuck!)
gets worse, check out http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2009/12/rich-aredifferent.html
once the downward spiral starts it inevitably spins out of control!
sorry for the inconvenience, but I went thru the whole damn vid mispronouncing senator inhofe’s name.
Since a number of people also complained that the file was corrupt and hard to view,
I pulled it and replaced with new, and re-recorded some of the audio.
My apologies. Please don’t beat me.
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This inspires the memory of when I was once shopping at a store below the Mason-Dixon line. As I was checking out, the nice saleslady looked at my credit card and pronounced my name correctly. “That’s pretty good!” I said. “Most people get it wrong.”
“Well I’m glad I got it right,” she said.
“I don’t know why it should be so difficult, it’s phonetic,” I said.
She looked at me quizzically and then asked, “Oh? Is that a country in Europe?”
I sent this anecdote, which never ceases to amuse me, to my dad in an email message a couple of weeks ago, to which he did not reply – but yesterday I got a note in the snailmail with his stock market account access information, and the cryptic note, “Us Phonecians must stick together!”
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Actually now I kind of wish “Inhofe” were pronounced “Einhoff” or something. Then we can do the “Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ayn Rand” thing. 🙂
Now I just need to know how to pronounce “Pielke”.
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Well, if it’s German in origin, it should be “Peel-ker”.
(If it were Peilke, it would be “Pile-ker”.
But is it “Inhofe” or “Inhoff”?
TrueSceptic:
I’ve always heard it pronouned “in-hoff”. Then again, maybe my hearing sucks.
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Names change over time.
It may have been Einhoffe 200 or more years ago.
I know some people even change their modern versions of names to the older versions so that it sounds ‘posh’.
It works better with Norman/French names rather than Germanic.
eg. something like D’Epernay instead of Depernay
(from Epernay)
An immigrant came over and was asked ‘where do you come from?’, the immigrant said ‘de Epernay’ and from then on the immigrant is referred to as ‘that French bloke Depernay’.
Excellent video! Thanks for posting it. It’s awesome to see someone connect the dots (following the money trail…hmmm, the petroleum guys want to disprove the harm they’re doing…imagine that!).
The link: “Smacking the Hack Attack” appears to be broken.
Clicking, or double-clicking, or right-clicking DOES NOTHING !
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My favourite is the article you cite that uses an argument over the translation of ‘grapes’ as its only evidence. The number of peer reviewed papers and data confirming a global MWP vastly outnumbers [1] what you have here.
I refer you to ‘Reconsidering Climate Change’ page 71 [2] for sources and data. By the way there is no logical fallacy here. I’m not saying the current change is natural because the past one was [3], I’m disputing the apocalyptic prognostication some of the alarmists are giving us about the consequences of climate change.
I must say that for someone so fond of accusing people of logical fallacies, you make more than your fair share of your own.
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Forget the atmosphere, if the greenhouse effect is too invisible for you to understand.
Just think about the oceans for a minute. The oceans and seas have absorbed about 40% of the 90 million tons [1] of CO2 we put into the air by burning fuel.
CO2 + H2O = carbonic acid. Carbonic acid dissolves calcium, and that’s just what is happening now in the oceans. It is going to continue to worsen, and ultimately destroy the foodchain.
And since most of the oxygen we breathe comes from life in the oceans, that could present a little problem. Aside from the hundreds of millions who rely on the sea for food and employment.
Oh I hope that’s not too apocalyptic! Because it’s just true.
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Don’t know if you get the CommonDreams newsletter, but here’s another bit from one you might want to read.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/12/23-2