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Method without Science,
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Seeing the recent “Science without method” post at Climate Etc I opted to first read the Nicol paper it was discussing before reading Dr Curry’s discussion of it.
The article alleges to highlight failures of climate change science, and in an obviously unintended way both it and Curry’s discussion of it does.
To give credit where credit is due, the exercise led me to rethinking how we frame the question of our current impasse. How it is possible for drivel like Nicol’s to somehow be taken seriously by anyone, never mind winding up actually influencing policies of countries.
First let’s get some context. In his paper Nicol said:
“Yet in contemporary research on matters to do with climate change, and despite enormous expenditure, not one serious attempt has been made to check the veracity of the numerous assumptions involved in greenhouse theory by actual experimentation.“
“greenhouse theory“, seriously? Has he not read any scientific literature post-1860?
That aside, this is just idiotically wrong as a general statement. Can he cite any specifics? Loaded as it is with qualifiers he would no doubt cite all of the relevant reserach (which he is clearly not familiar with, or simply doesn’t understand) as not “serious” attempt(s) (ie No True Scotsman fallacy).
“The one modern, definitive experiment, the search for the signature of the green house effect has failed totally.“
This is such outright nonsense that even Curry calls it out “Oops. The signature of the Earth’s greenhouse effect is well known and demonstrated by the infrared spectra at the surface and measured by satellites.”
Oops? the flagrant display of unbelievable ignorance warrants only an “Oops“? Is this the Judith Curry who, based on a couple of minor errors and a fabricated scandal, said:
” … the IPCC dogma, it is the religious importance that the IPCC holds for this cadre of scientists; they will tolerate no dissent, and seek to trample and discredit anyone who challenges the IPCC. Who are these priests of the IPCC?” and so on
Hypocritical double standards much?
Well, what can we expect from some random physicist publishing a popular article on the web? Actually I think it reasonable to expect anyone who has had any scientific training whatsoever (like a pass BSc) to be able to manage the 20 min it would have required to get his facts straight, particularly if they are pretending enough authority to write on the subject. After all, these days even a lot of pre-school children know how to use a search engine.
Let’s also note that Nicol is not some random physicist, he is in fact Chairman [sic] of the Australian Climate Science Coalition (yes, another political PR/Lobbying Firm “Think Tank”) and author of the irrelevant “A Fundamental Analysis of the Greenhouse Effect”.
Of course when you consider some of the other members of the scientific advisory panel, like Bob Carter, David Evans, William Kininmonth, John McLean, and Ian Plimer to name a few, (condolences to our friends down under) you realize that Nicol may be the best available at the ACSC; he is merely ridiculously wrong, whereas the ACSC has far worse to offer.
Is it too much to ask that the Chair of anything with the term “Climate Science” in their title have at least a rudimentary grasp of the basic facts? Is that too much to expect? Apparently it is.
I should be (and I probably am) looking at the creme de la creme of climate change science “skepticism” written by the Chair of a “skeptic” think tank and being discussed by one of the premier “skeptic” blogs, and it’s a failed high school paper being graded by the student’s overprotective mother.
So I stopped there
The scientific failure that these pieces underscore is the failure to create a population sufficiently scientifically literate to immediately see these posts for ridiculous. Not merely ridiculous, but as allegedly serious scientific discussions of climate change science, outright insulting.
Surely there has to be a better way to approach this than merely documenting (yet again) that the Deniers are a bunch of clueless no hopers indulging in circle jerks to exploit the credulity of the gullible.
This is not news to any who actually read this, or most of the other science blogs. Why bother doing it again? On the off chance that any of the Deniers actually said anything rational it would immediately be picked up by the legitimate science community, so what’s the point?
Here again I think we are dealing with something that is necessary, but not sufficient. On the one hand it is necessary to document the vapidity of the Denier Canon:
- for those who are not aware and/or joining us late;
- for people who accept the science, but who want to see that it has answers to the Denier claims;
That this has not been sufficient is self-evident and much discussed, but that begs the question as to what else is needed?
Tactics without strategy
It seems to me (and perhaps someone can correct me) that most of the discussion of the public (mis)understanding of climate change science and the attendant policy failures is about messaging, how we present what we have to say.
That is tactics. Tactics are fine, you need tactics, but what is the strategy? What is it we want to achieve? Who is our target and why? Exactly how do our tactics lead us to achieving our goals?
“Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Granted the climate science community is a loose network of a broad spectrum of individuals and groups, with occasional nodes that might be described as coalitions and the like, so I am not suggesting a unified strategy. It’s not only impractical, it’s probably impossible.
Even so, it is possible for us to have a loose strategy that is constantly discussed and reviewed, and which many in the network implement in ways that are suited to their strengths and abilities.
The assumed “target” seems to be the public and policy makers. For the latter we assume access through official channels such as the government departments and academic societies, and secondarily through the electorate. For the former we put the science out there and hope that the media & NGOs will pick it up and pass it on, supplemented with blogs, podcasts and such other public voices as we can muster.
As for dealing with the Deniers, we are pretty much reactive and are restricted to documenting their errors and frauds, as well as exposing their links to vested interests. How this is meant to neutralize or counteract them is more assumed than stated, and depends heavily on assumptions of a rational society that is interested in self-preservation.
Is that a fair description?
If so, we need a clearer, more coherent, proactive strategy utilizing a broader range of tactics that takes advantage of the full range of people who support the rational, pro-science worldview and are willing to do something about it.
This is something I will be talking a lot more about in coming posts, and hopefully others will be as well.
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We give our consent every moment that we do not resist.
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Excellent, and I look forward to participating in the discussion. I got entirely fed up with Tobis a couple of weeks ago when I suggested that he address this question relative to his own activities and he seemed not to even understand it.
Very thoughtful and helpful. I don’t have a BSc, but a good working acquaintance with science and method, and it’s clear to me. But the clever complexity of what I see “winning” the “debate” is perfectly described as tactics without science.
I agree that writing/talking past the fake skeptics and complimenting the invisible audience on their ability to observe and think – but restricting themselves, or rather broadening their view to include time and space – is one way to expand the discussion. We have a little fun, if we like argumentation, deconstructing invalid arguments, but it’s a circular activity. And we are all too ready to take aim at each other.
At what point will we realize that form without substance won’t move a teaspoonful of sand?
Greenfyre, Steve Bloom,
I’m in too.
A question is, can we do more than just hope? That is, can we grow an infrastructure that facilitates the flow of news?
The inactivists’ strategy for ‘information sharing’ has simply been to do brute-force copying-and-pasting. We bloggers on the fact-based side are averse to this, since we don’t want our blogs to comprise mostly of dittos — unfortunately it also puts us at a disadvantages when it comes to spreading news.
So is there a better way to promote news sharing than to throw up another RSS or Twitter feed?
Romm’s recent evisceration of Nisbet’s misinformation may offer an interesting lesson for us. Romm saw an incipient inactivist meme in Nisbet’s Climate Shift paper, and moved quickly to quash it before it could do its damage.
However, there are lots of inactivist memes, and even with our combined efforts we probably can’t whack them all, so perhaps we’ll also need to figure out which ones to focus our attentions on…
Just my 2 cents.
— frank
“can we grow an infrastructure that facilitates the flow of (accurate) news”
That’s it right there.
The irony is that deniers tend to be committed to anti-authoritarian views and some seem to believe this is what they are creating e.g. Curry. They recognize the need for communication infrastructure; but we are looking to counter disinformation rather than spread or encourage it, preferably (as on the example you mention from Romm) before it gets very far so the infrastructure needs to be able to have an anticipatory or monitoring capacity.
Otherwise, direct refutation doesn’t seem to have helped and instead draws attention to theatrical deniers who influence on the basis of this, rather than accurate information.
I’m unfortunately only capable of small bursts of creative or useful ideas, but I’ve imagined e.g. an internet site that does weekly mock trials. Something that entertains, as well as informs and anticipates. Indirect or anticipatory strategies that do not draw counterproductive attention to the disinformation is needed.
And I sincerely hope that MT isn’t beating himself up. I see his response as genuine, which increases his trustworthiness – not decreases it.
cheers 🙂
Martha:
The way I see, the problem isn’t what kind of web site to create, but what kind of environment — what kind of information infrastructure — the web site lives in.
To give an example: Someone somewhere says “trick […], […] to hide the decline”, and in no time, the entire sprawling network of inactivist think-tanks, faux-scientists, blogs, and Congressgoons have picked up the phrase, and are repeating it by rote in forum after forum after forum, day after day after day. And it latches on in the public’s mind.
In contrast, when Denial Depot publishes something that’s actually intelligent and funny … what do we do? We mention it once (if at all). And then we stop. And within a day or two, the public has forgotten about it — if they ever heard of it.
The difference is all in the infrastructure.
Whether it’s just a small creative burst or a continuous stream of novel material isn’t so important; rather the issue is for how long and how widely the news and ideas are able to spread.
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And MT is genuine all right; Steve Bloom and me just think he’s being naive when it comes to climate communication matters.
— frank
That’s a good example that you’ve given to me, and description of how the public gets conditioned. It’s about how to develop and support the flow of good (accurate, timely, relevant, reinforced) information, rather than any specific strategies we might use to counter misinformation. Cool. 🙂
Greenfyre, what are your thoughts?
— frank
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Thanks Greenfyre… I’ll reply briefly over at those blog posts. And I look forward to reading what else you have to write…
— frank